THE VEILED BLADE AMIDST THE WEAVE OF TRUST šŸ’”

Further to what beloved @Monesh_Bathre has so kindly taken the time to review, here is my take,

The client is clearly a Visual processor and you calibrated beautifully, @hc2101 ! In the initial regression, the client described the beach with golden sand, coconut trees, and greenish water. In the subsequent lives, he described the rough wrap-around cloth, the leather and metal shoes, the mud and stone house, and the Pundit Ji’s white oil lamp. These are all strong Visual descriptions. let’s discuss this in our monthly forum call today my blessed @hc2101 as I’d like us to have it fixed, Your questioning was consistently well-calibrated like ā€œWhat do you see?ā€ and ā€œLook at your feet… what are you wearing?ā€ are perfectly targeted questions for a Visual client, helping them ground the experience in sensory detail.

that’s science :slight_smile: mind is as mechanical as any machine that you know.

that’s a much needed indicator that everything that we’d done so far has worked.

unfortunately this is how the weak people in leadership positions have made it their only way of survival

now a days I start the I of IDT with, do you feel a body :rofl: and if the response is a yes, then the next suggestions, is,
is it the same body or a different one?
in case they say it’s a different one, then the sub-personality has been established and you can ask what could you be wearing on your feet? holding in your hands… dress and etc…

one priceless tip which will make you a pro is, as soon as we are confronted with a ā€œNoā€ or response which we weren’t anticipating–anything unexpected can derail the session and should be immediately taken as a point from where every attempt is made to regain the balance. to avert a major accident… So the next suggestion should have followed the EPE model, Empathise, Paraphrase and Elicit the next event though a well calibrated suggestion.

I might not really be right, but based on this, it seems like we might be respecting what the magnanimous Superconscious mind has surfaced for us… but we are anticipating something else… we should always value what has been given…

show the importance of the right theme selection, being so precise paid off here! I urge you all to be pedantic instead of the ā€œKuch bhi chal ta heiā€ attitude.

maybe we jumped the gun here, it was too soon, we should helped him relive the death experience… with suggestions like, what happens after you leave that body?

Remember we need a state of hyper awareness to process and integrate such powerful lessons from the source of all creation.

hence this is a CO not a lesson as it doesn’t align with the universal principle of Love/Dharma.

we could have done a lot here actually and this one lifetime would have been sufficient to reduce the pain to zero.

your suggestions can be much more relaxing than the park, coaching breathing and giving directives to relieve stress as and when observed could have made this redundant.

if we could have done the resolution PD (post death ) in the earlier session, the client would have picked up another theme…

you could have helped with your suggestions, tell me how

this will not have any therapeutic impact as the resolution is not endogenic

repeated again,…

Actually I had goosebumps reading this message my blessed Harmeet, it’s not only for you, but for all of us. We never heal, it is Ma Parvathy who does her magic, we are merely dogs at her blessed door.

as you fine tune your skills, you will see it being done in the3rd session itself!

So in summary the client, Shekhawat, presented with a 20-year-old wound of betrayal by his business partners, which led to significant financial loss and personal crisis, including postpartum depression. His pain level remained 5/10 despite his current successful and contented life. The core question was ā€œWhy me?ā€

Session 2 was crucial in setting the stage. You successfully anchored him using the ā€œBall of Lightā€ and Staircase methods and got him to a space of peace (the Garden/River) before gently exploring happy childhood memories. This eased him into the process, managing the initial jitters.

Timing/sequence issues:-

  1. The Affect Bridge wasn’t appropriately used as you had already picked up a theme whose response potential was only 5/10 and after having resolved it to some extent, went with an affect bridge…?
  2. Brining the support figure (Pandit ji) in climax while they should have preceded the PL explanation in what we refer to as the ā€œAncient Templeā€ visualisation.
  3. I can find four distinct past lifetimes linked by themes of trust, dependence, and karmic repercussions which could have left residual because KMF2C wasn’t attempted.
  4. Pauses were misplaced, remember memory that we are extracting is not a noun but a verb.

There were some contradictory lessons which emerged due to the above, take for instance:

PL 1 As Lani
Primitive/Tribal life focused on survival, community reliance, and a primal form of betrayal (Lani running off with the community’s ā€œstuffā€). The lesson extracted was not to trust people…

PL 2 As Daro
Warrior/Settler more structured life (c. 1800s?) where Daro was a warrior who, in a moment of conflict, killed an innocent man and later betrayed his people on the battlefield by leaving them to die. This life created the core karmic debt. The lesson revolved around family duty, keeping peace, and not saying harsh words…

PL 3 Cave Meditator
A more ancient, spiritual life (c. 500-600 BC?) where the client was stabbed to death after an emotional altercation in a cave. The lesson here was to listen to people and let go.

PL 4
1930s Europe, A brief glimpse of a life involving running from the police and being caught, with the community applauding, suggesting social conflict and perhaps another form of betrayal

In case of having elicited more than one lifetime, we’d need to have a resolution for all these lifetimes by using resolutions like,

ā€œwhat was common between all these lifetimesā€¦ā€ and such.

The lessons from Daro’s life (ā€œdon’t depend on othersā€) and the Cave life (ā€œI need to listen to peopleā€) are in sharp contrast. This is fascinating! In the integration phase, if time permits, you can gently ask the client to hold both lessons and find the synthesis (the higher wisdom). For example, after deepening,

"Is it possible, Shekhawat, that the wisdom is not ā€˜never depend on others,’ from your lifetime as Daro nor ā€˜always listen to everyone,’ from your lifetime as a Cave Dweller could meaning something which you can put into practice for not feeling betrayed going forward… "

This could’ve turned two seemingly contradictory lessons into one unified, higher spiritual principle.

You displayed a very solid foundation in permissive and gentle language, which is the cornerstone of indirect suggestion. The use of ā€œallow yourself to go back to that time,ā€ ā€œallow yourself to go to the next significant eventā€ā€¦, is a powerful, indirect command because it implies the client is already capable and the therapist is simply giving permission for the subconscious to act. When heslipped from the initial beach vision to the second life (Lani), it seemed like the initial image was a hypnotic screen rather than a past life, or perhaps a desired safe place. When you noticed the lack of detail (ā€œI don’t see anyone….looks like no one lives hereā€), your instruction to move to the next significant event was technically correct. However, for a V/K client, a gentle prompt like,

ā€œThat’s a beautiful place, and it’s holding you safely. Now, allow that peaceful scene to gently dissolve, and let the feeling of the betrayal pain on your chest carry you through time to the very first moment your soul felt this type of woundā€

can ensure a cleaner transition and less ā€˜jumping’ between seemingly disconnected scenes.

Harmeet, you have handled a complex case with deep-seated emotional pain and delivered a profound resolution that will benefit this client for the rest of his life. You are a wonderful therapist, and I am so proud of the work you are doing.

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Thank you @venu sir :pray:t2::pray:t2: for taking the time to read my case report and going into the nick-nacks of the PLRT sessions and explaining everything so beautifully. I’m still wrapping my head around the precise analogy you shared, it was profound and thought-provoking. The way you broke down the sessions/suggestions details with such clarity and grace made even the most intricate aspects feel accessible and meaningful. I realized I still have a long way to go in learning and deepening my grasp of PLRT, but your explanations make the journey both inspiring and encouraging. I’m truly grateful for the clarity, depth, and compassion you bring into every discussion :pray:t2::pray:t2:

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Totally agree, I didn’t process it in the correct way :frowning:

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Yes :+1: noted for future!

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Yes! I’m still in the learning phase, when I look back there are lots of coulda-shoulda-woulda!! Thank you

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We discussed after every session but he still insisted to go for a walk instead of discussing, may be he needed a break from me :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I still need more practice processing death and moments before, most crucial part I feel but again I’m a work in progress. Thank you :pray:t2:

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Yeah! He carried the hurt of betrayal from Lani in this life and he didn’t let it go, even after dying.

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Sure! From now on I will be following this approach only, Thank you :pray:t2:

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Agree! I will keep that in mind going forward for future sessions, thank you :pray:t2:

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@venu I read it throughly again and again and will do it more. So much to learn from all the suggestions you made :pray:t2: every case is a learning lesson. It’s very important to clear the residual from each life and I made so many in-corrections here and there. So many regrets and the opportunities I missed. Wish I could go back in time and correct. May be one day I will have another session with him :pray:t2: so much to learn :pray:t2::pray:t2: thank you for all the support and guidance :pray:t2::pray:t2: always appreciate :pray:t2::pray:t2: you are truly an amazing mentor :pray:t2::pray:t2: we are so blessed and grateful to have you :pray:t2::pray:t2: thank you!!

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It could be true, that beach might be his safe place, as he is a beach body and Goa is his favourite place, he wants to live their after retirement :slightly_smiling_face::+1::pray:t2:

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Hopefully :pray:t2::pray:t2: so much to learn and to practice.

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So true! I’m still in awe and disbelief that I was blessed with such guidance :pray:t2::pray:t2: so much gratitude and respect to the masters for helping me, I’m nothing and still got so much love, don’t know how to describe my gratitude and happiness :pray:t2::pray:t2:

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Congratulations Harmeet. You have handled the sessions well. A lot of learning for me from your case along with mentor’s suggestions. Thank you

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@sarandha thank you so much! I’m overwhelmed by the love, support and encouragement from friends, members and mentors :cherry_blossom::cherry_blossom::pray:t2: truly feel blessed to be a part on this amazing community :pray:t2::pray:t2:

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Hi Harmeet

First of all a BIG Congratulations for this case.

it was not easy. Being your second case, you have done wonderfully well.

What I felt going through the case was, once the sub concious mind took over, it was jumping from one life time to the other…as if very eager to show you —see, I am suffering since a long time…for so many past lifes…full of betrayal …..once this happens , what I do is usually slow down and try to anchor and understand whats happening….I try to dig in and anchor - in your case, I think ,first clue that could have been anchored was at the very beginning - when the client saw himself with no clothes at all and he was a human being, second one was when Loni ran away and third I strongly feel when he was a jew and was taken away from the locality and neighbours clapping.

I may be wrong…..but felt like commenting here.

However, the theme chosen was perfect which actually carried the sessions till its logical end with NIL pain level after 3 weeks.

Also after reading your session, I feel the client was a non believer in PLRT before the sessions. Please confirm either ways.

All the best Harmeet. You are doing good.:waving_hand: :waving_hand: :waving_hand:

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@deepakchaks Thank you Deepak for taking the time out to read and share your feedback :folded_hands:t2::folded_hands:t2: I truly appreciate it :folded_hands:t2: I do agree that client was a non believer in PLRT and very logical minded but he was very open to try and find answers. Once he was in trance he amazed me, his phone rang for 10-15 seconds once, before I jumped and switched it off completely, despite being on silent ( few of the numbers were bypassed for emergency I guess) but he didn’t hear it and he later told me that my voice sounded different while he was in trance. Like it was someone else’s voice. I’m happy he found his answers and his pain is zero. As a new therapist I still regret not doing many things which I could have done differently but may be that was meant to be. I’m still working to polish my skills and it will be a life long learning/journey!! Every session teaches me new perspectives and techniques :folded_hands:t2::folded_hands:t2: any encouragement and guidance from pros like you is deeply appreciated and valued :folded_hands:t2::folded_hands:t2: thanks again!!

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