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I know we follow Dave Elman and progressive relaxation followed by ball of light for induction. Lately a client asked If there’s another form of quick induction? He is in his 50’s and has back and shoulder pain issues, plus he is Kineasthetic. He was tossing and turning constantly and wasn’t able to relax at all, so obviously he didn’t go into trance and asked me to fix the induction technique to a quicker one, I felt annoyed for a second but then realized he was being serious. And he said you will be finding clients like me also so there has to be a better induction technique. I couldn’t come up with anything, internet is full of induction techniques but which one to follow besides the ones we actually learned. If there are any suggestions that would be really appreciated ![]()
thank You!
Very good one for discussion Harmeet. All of us will be benefited by this
@ushapssk Thank you for your support
truly appreciate that
I guess it would be a good discussion if Venu Sir is up for it!
My question is:
How can I support or help a closed one who is navigating through hard times mentally and emotionally? (Not through PLRT, but along the way).
I know we can discuss this but 2 cents from me. Listen listen and listen
I have 10 friends like this, who asked same question
Life is too fast and people donot have patience to sit or they are too old or facing health issue
Br
Vikrant
Life is fast and people are not ready to pause because it feels forced. Plrt is patience for both the therapist and client. You have to sync with em for a smooth and seamless session, and with us aging too it’s hard to be in a position for several hours
I feel for the clients!
Dear Harmeet, thank you for bringing up such a practical question. ![]()
I realize that sometimes the challenge is not the induction technique but the assumption that relaxation must happen before trance.
A few of my most profound clients were actually the ones who said, “I can’t relax,” “My mind won’t stop,” or “My body hurts too much.”
When someone has chronic pain, especially in their 50s or beyond, asking them to “relax your shoulders” can feel like asking a person with a broken leg to enjoy a marathon. Their attention keeps returning to the discomfort because that is where their nervous system has learned to stay.
Over time, I stopped trying to fight the resistance.
Instead of saying, “Relax your shoulder,”
I might say,
“Just notice the shoulder.”
“You don’t need to change it.”
“Simply become curious about it.”
Something interesting happens then. The moment people stop trying to relax, they often begin relaxing.
I also find that highly kinesthetic clients respond beautifully to movement-based awareness rather than visualizations.
Sometimes I ask them to focus on the feeling of the chair supporting them, the weight of their feet on the floor or the sensation of their breath moving through the body.
It’s a bit like trying to help a frightened bird land on your hand. The harder you chase it, the further it flies. But if you sit quietly and create safety, it eventually comes on its own.
One of the biggest lessons therapy has taught me is that trance is not something we “do” to a client.
Trance is a state that emerges when the nervous system feels safe enough to stop defending itself.
For some clients, Dave Elman works beautifully. For others, conversational hypnosis, sensory awareness, fractionation or simply building more rapport before induction may work better.
The client actually made an important point when he said, “You’ll find more clients like me.”
Every difficult client has been one of my greatest teachers. They gently force us to become less attached to techniques and more attuned to human beings.
Perhaps the question is not
"What is the quickest induction?"
But rather:
"What does this particular nervous system need in order to feel safe enough to let go?"
Sometimes the answer takes us much deeper than any induction script ever could. ![]()
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Hope things are going great at your end…Stay blessed always.
Just trying to answer your query with whatever little I know…that sometimes the greatest help is not having the right words, but offering a safe presence.
Listen more than you advise.
Understand more than you fix.
And remind them, through your presence, that they don’t have to carry their pain alone.
People often heal not because someone solved their problem, but because someone stayed. ![]()
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Soooooooooo OOO…true…![]()
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Very true, Vikrant. ![]()
I’ve also noticed the same.
Sometimes the issue is not resistance to trance…it is simply that the body is carrying pain and the mind is carrying a lifetime of busyness.
Perhaps our flexibility as therapists becomes just as important as the induction itself. ![]()
So true, Harmeet. ![]()
Sometimes the real induction is not helping the client slow down… it’s helping them feel safe enough to slow down.
And yes, after a few-hour session, even therapists deserve a healing chair and a cup of tea! ![]()
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Dear Dr. Aayush,
Honestly I felt less like a failed regression and more like a therapist’s surrender to the process.
Sometimes we enter a session hoping to find a past life, but the subconscious has a different agenda.
What stands out to me is not that the client could not access a past life.
but his statement,
“Fear is settled. Fear won’t come back again.”
Whether it emerged from a past life, an archetypal image, a symbolic dragon, Shiva’s grace or the client’s own deeper consciousness, something meaningful seems to have shifted.
As therapist, I sometimes wonder if we become attached to the route and forget the destination.
The destination is healing.
The route need not always be a past life.
In fact, the subconscious often speaks in the language it feels safest..
For one client, it is a past life. For another, it is childhood. For another, it is symbols. For another, it is devotion.
The dragon may have been more important than any historical lifetime.
What touched me is the client’s doubt about whether it is imagination.
In my experience the more analytical and intelligent a client is, the more likely they are to question their own experience.
Yet imagination and subconscious imagery often emerge through the same doorway.
Perhaps the question is not:
“Was it imagination?”
But:
“Did the experience create insight, emotional release, or transformation?”
If yes, then something valuable happened.
I wonder whether the inability to intensify the fear during Affect Bridge is itself information.
Could it be that the psyche was unwilling to amplify fear because it had already found a safer way to process it?
Or perhaps the fear of blindness is not the root issue but merely the visible branch of a deeper unconscious conflict still waiting to be understood.
I would be very curious to know:
If the fear truly remains settled over the coming weeks, would Venu Sir consider this session therapeutically successful even without a past-life retrieval?
Sometimes I feel the subconscious is less interested in proving past lives and more interested in reducing suffering.
Thank you for sharing such an honest account.![]()
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Many of us learn more from sessions that don’t go according to plan than from those that unfold exactly as expected.![]()
Yes, exactly!! So precisely explained. Mind keeps going there no matter what, and more you push the K clients more they get irritated and it feels forced to em. So instead of going into relaxation their mind does the opposite. Setting up a smooth transition from the start is very important and crucial. Even then some pain and physical position still triggers and gets em out of the relaxing state and there we go again with the whole process. What I meant was, some physical pain can still derail the flow. So his point was what’s the quick fix for clients like me? I thought maybe be more sessions would be beneficial so establish trust and ease into the actual process. Only mind/body relaxation can be provided for such clients for a couple of sessions, getting their attention to relaxation not pushing trance or induction initially. It was a lengthy process. I experimented with another client, I let her sleep for 2 sessions and then she slowly eased into the process and finally opened up. But she was young
my 50+ client wasn’t giving in, he was like “nahi nahi kuch aur bhi hota hoga may be ask your mentor” so here I’m asking the master how do I master all this? ![]()
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Sir, the question is related to the alumni meet, and to set the other things, you and we all (interested candidates) must decide the place and date days so that we will start looking for further actions to be taken in that regard.
That would be lovely! I am looking forward
please pick a date and place, thank you!
Thank you so much for guiding me from the beginning. Ever grateful to you ![]()
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