My answers to a client for her questions after PLRT experience

A client, after undergoing PLRT experience, came to see me after sometime with some questions and wanted answers to be video recorded. With her permission, I have uploaded the answers to YouTube at https://youtu.be/DOz5blU0pHQ

I request all of you incuding our Dear Venu to kindly advise what answers I shoud have given to these questions.

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Dear @ceoccfb :folded_hands: Pranaamam.

Below are some of my perspective for the questions:
1. Why, Some of the experiences that we perceive through PLRT as Kings/Warriors/Healers., etc. not like any farmers any other?

Our past life experiences are always based on our current life experiences only and only those lives we will be experiencing that is matching with our current life experiences. We cannot see any past lives for which what we are going to experience in the future in this current life time.
Once the energy set in motion can be experienced.
Here and Now is the starting point of all experiences.

In one of my past-life-experience, one of the message that I got was, we took this human form to experience the divine oneness, unlearn all our past experience and to be with the One. When a person is evolved, he/she doesn't care about why we took birth and live their life and started to have internal urge to do actions based on their thoughts -> Karma started forming. We took again another birth to clear the last karma and knowingly/unknowingly we create new karma in the conscious process.

There are no new life lessons !! All are experiences.

Space
  ↑
  |                Current Life
  |                 /
  |                /
  |               /
  |              /
  |-------------●----------------------→ Time
  |            /
  |           /
  |          /
  |         /
  |        /
  |   Past Life
  |

Explanation

  • Horizontal axis (X) → Time progression
  • Vertical axis (Y) → Space (location/experience dimension)
  • Past Life trajectory moves through space-time until death point (●).
  • That point becomes a transition node where karmic memory carries forward.
  • Current life trajectory continues from the same karmic node but with a different spatial trajectory (new body, new environment).

During the SamĀdhi state there won’t be any time-space trajectory to follow past either future.

Space
  ↑
  |
  |
  |        ●
  |
  |
  +--------------------------→ Time

  • Time disappears (no past/future)
  • Space disappears (no subject/object)
  • Awareness rests in a single timeless point

This is described in Advaita Vedanta as:
“Desha–Kala–Vastu Shunya”
(no space, no time, no object)

Vedantic Interpretation

State Time Space Mind
Waking Linear Separate objects Active
Meditation Slow Reduced Quiet
Samadhi None None Dissolved

2. Regarding Source-Soul relation and count of souls during each period (YŪGĀ) ?
There will be always one divine source, through which we align and materialize many things and experiences. From this single universal source only we were manifested as soul. We are the subset of the same divine source to which we devote ourselves, it can be an idol/picture/Sankalpā/Mind/works etc., During the time of Maharishis, Maha Gurus person’s like Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, Shri Swami Vivekananda, Shri Yukteswar Giri, Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Shri Neeb Karoli Babaji etc., they were able to unceasingly able to meditate on and were able to reach a point wherein the need of another birth (Removal of all the conditions/constructs for the soul to take another body) is dissolved or don’t exist. Hence, these people won’t take another birth. Beyond that state if a person meditates unceasingly and reaches the highest state, then his/her soul is free and can decide independently without the need of creating karmas whether to come back to earth. In fact there are many high souls who choose to come back to earth to serve people with unconditional love. So, one who reaches this highest point, concept of yugas or eons etc., all are not at all bothered.

3. Regarding Escaping the Cycle of Cause-effect & guilt of recognizing their own karma ?

As I have explained in the above questions, one who can reach a point where past and future is dissolved then he/she already started to escape Cause-Effect cycle. See our life’s journey is just traveling through time and space to reach next destination in life. From the time-space chart shown above, when a soul’s body have thoughts → deeds/actions and unfulfilled desired (thoughts), then it creates another point in time-space chart so that it takes another body to complete long pending works, In our beloved @venu @Venumurthy :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: master’s teachings, L.B.L is the line between 2 birth points.

Kabir’s poetic expression of this state

जब मैं मिटा तब हरि मिला।

जब मैं था तब हरि नहीं,
अब हरि है मैं नाहीं।
सब अँधियारा मिट गया,
जब दीपक देखा माहीं॥

When the ego existed, the Divine was not seen.
When the Divine is realized, the ego disappears.
All darkness vanishes when the inner light is seen.

Regarding guilty of recognizing our own karma, as per my experience, PLRT showed us a way to gracefully accepting and releasing the cause of suffering (which is mainly due to attachment) thereby allowing catharsis to happen, so that we are free from its effects (Cause from past lives have effects on past as well as current life).

There are no new lessons from life to learn.
Only lesson we have to learn and implement is
“To Serve people with Unconditional Love”

4. Who created the God ?
All that you have told is correct @ceoccfb sir. However, I have question for you. Are you able to perceive light source clearly in bright light or in the darkness (emptiness)?
Before the dawn of light there was only absolute voidness/darkness/emptiness. Even before atoms-neutrons-electrons were present, absolute voidness were there. Which is exactly the place where all it began, When the frequencies started vibrating then only all so called energies-atoms-electron-neutrons were created, when the frequency of vibration is in absolute stillness then there is nothingness.

Below are the Tamil verses from Thirumandiram a sacred Tamil yogic text written by the Siddhar Tirumular.

First Verse (Opening Invocation)

ஒன்றவன் தானே இரண்டவன் இன்னருள்
நின்றவன் மூன்றினுள் நான்குணர்ந்தான் ஐந்தும்
வென்றவன் ஆறு விரிந்தவன் ஏழும்பர்ச்
சென்றவன் தானிருந்தான் உணர்ந்தெட்டே

Meaning

  • The One became Two (creation)
  • Stands within the Three (three worlds or three principles)
  • Realized as Four
  • Conquered the Five senses
  • Expanded into Six paths
  • Transcends the Seven worlds
  • Realized as the Eightfold truth

This verse symbolically explains the expansion of the One Absolute into the universe.

Verse describing God within the body

உள்ளம் பெருங்கோயில் ஊனுடம்பு ஆலயம்
வள்ளல் பிரானார்க்கு வாய்கோபுர வாசல்
தெள்ளத் தெளிந்தார்க்குச் சீவன் சிவலிங்கம்
கள்ளப் புலனைந்தும் காளாமணி விளக்கே

Meaning

  • The mind is the great temple
  • The body is the shrine
  • The mouth is the temple gateway
  • The soul itself is the Shiva Linga
  • The five senses are lamps

This verse explains God is realized within oneself.

5. If the God is all loving, why the god has created Ego and make us suffer? Why we should pray to that kind of God ?
God crafted Humans with Ego only to understand/experience different experiences and to learn from it (for self realisation only). However, when we started reacting to the different experiences, we started to create seeds of karma and as part of Karma Phala, we suffer.

Sufferings were not created by the God, it’s because of our own deeds and attachment we suffer in different lives. God created our different lives to experience our true self.
God has not told to pray the God outside that we see in temples or church or mosque. Even in all scriptures be it Bible or Quran or Hindu scriptures, all the great ones told to realize the self, understand that the God and oneself are same.
Be always with your true self - ParamĀtman. :folded_hands:

After many eons of effort only we are getting this bodily form and hence :folded_hands: I request all Human life is very precious, and it is not full of drama. All the dramas are created by the Ego.
I end this discussion by explaining the verses from Thiruvasagam written by the saint Manikkavacakar And Lord Buddha’s first verses after he got enlightenment.

கல்லாய் புழுவாய் மரமாய் பறவையாய்
பாம்பாய் மனிதராய் பேயாய் கணங்களாய்
வல்ல அசுரராய் முனிவராய் தேவராய்
செல்லா நின்ற இத்தாவர சங்கமத்துள்
எல்லாப் பிறப்பும் பிறந்திளைத்தேன் எம்பெருமான்
மெய்யே உன் பொன்னடிகள் கண்டின்று வீடுற்றேன்

“As stone, as worm, as tree, as bird,
As serpent, as man, as spirit and as hosts celestial,
As mighty demons, as sages and as gods
In this vast assemblage of beings I was born again and again.
O my Lord!
At last, I have seen Thy golden feet
And thus have attained deliverance.”

The poet says:

  • I have been born in many forms of existence
  • From inert matter to animals to humans and celestial beings
  • After wandering through countless births,
  • I finally realized the Divine (Shiva)
  • That realization brought liberation from rebirth.

Spiritual Evolution Chart

Liberation (Moksha)
        ▲
        │
Realization of Shiva
        ▲
        │
Human Birth (Self-awareness)
        ▲
        │
Animals / Birds / Serpents
        ▲
        │
Plant Life (Tree)
        ▲
        │
Primitive Life (Worm / Insects)
        ▲
        │
Inert Matter (Stone)

Interpretation of Each Stage

Stage Meaning in the Verse Consciousness Level
Stone (கல்) Inert existence dormant consciousness
Worm (புழு) Primitive life instinct awareness
Tree (மரம்) Plant life growth but no mobility
Bird/Animal (பறவை / பாம்பு) Instinct-driven life survival intelligence
Human (மனிதர்) Self-awareness begins ability to seek truth
Sage / Deva Refined consciousness spiritual maturity
Liberation Realization of Shiva union with ultimate reality
Body → Mind → Awareness → Samadhi → Liberation

First Verses Spoken by the Buddha After Enlightenment

This verse appears in the Dhammapada (verses 153–154).

Anekajāti saṃsāraṃ
Sandhāvissaṃ anibbisaṃ
Gahakārakaṃ gavesanto
Dukkha jāti punappunaṃ

Gahakāraka diṭṭhosi
Puna gehaṃ na kāhasi
Sabbā te phāsukā bhaggā
Gahakūṭaṃ visaṅkhataṃ
Visaṅkhāragataṃ cittaṃ
Taṇhānaṃ khayamajjhagā

English Translation

“Through many births in the cycle of existence
I wandered seeking the builder of this house.
Painful is repeated birth again and again.
O house-builder! You are now seen.
You shall build this house no more.
All your rafters are broken;
the ridgepole is shattered.
The mind has attained the unconditioned.
The end of craving has been achieved.”

Meaning of the Verse

Symbol Meaning
House The body / conditioned existence
House-builder Craving (tanha) / ignorance
Rafters Mental formations
Ridgepole Ego illusion
House destroyed End of rebirth
Unconditioned state Nirvana

The Buddha realized that craving creates the cycle of rebirth .
When craving ends, the cycle of suffering stops .

I am dedicating all this knowledge as tribute to all my Gurus and Mahagurus (Known and Unknown), who have realised these above truth to thyslef.

Jahan Pahunche Guru Ki Bani

जहाँ पहुँचे गुरु की बानी,
वहाँ पहुँचे ना पवन।
वहाँ पहुँचे ना सुरज चाँद,
ना पहुँचे काल गगन॥
:folded_hands::folded_hands::folded_hands: