Spontaneous Emergence post KMF: Finding solutions

Questions and Answers
1

images (1)

A client repeatedly exhibited spontaneous emergence after each KMF. Despite being in a stable trance state, as confirmed by his unawareness of external disturbances such as nearby hammering noise, he consistently stood up immediately after the emergence of an engram. The client reported that the process felt involuntary, describing it as a lack of control over the urge to emerge.
This pattern occurred three times during the same session. It is important to note that the client was adequately relaxed, yet demonstrated this automatic resurfacing without waiting for the therapist’s instructions. Also, guide me to the solution to avoid a situation like this again.

7 Likes
2

This is normal my blessed Akshay
Can you share some more details
Like vitals, theme, pain level, what were the flashes

7 Likes
3

Hi Akshay,

Welcome to the family.

This can happen sometimes, and I understand how challenging it may feel. Could you share a bit more about what kind of KMFs the client experienced, were they scary, or accompanied by any body sensations? Also, what theme were you working on, and what is the client’s dominant sense? With those details, I will be able to answer you more specifically.

Meanwhile, here are a few things you can try in upcoming sessions:

  1. When the client emerges, first ground yourself as a therapist, take an extra breath and trust yourself.
  2. Reassure the client saying…

It’s completely okay to emerge. You may still remain in the recliner and rest. We can still continue the session. This helps the client to not freak out.

  1. Offer them a bit more relaxation, guide them into gentle breathing, and then you can try again.

Best wishes!!!

8 Likes
4

@venu

Client Vitals

  • Male, 33 YO
  • VAK: 5/5/5, Responsiveness: 8/10, Eye roll: 2/4, no squint
  • Physical cues: shoulder jerk (unaware), constipation, forehead stress

Theme

  • Confusion in a 9-year relationship (intercaste barrier, parental disapproval)

  • Over-emotional, stuck, loss of purpose, escapism urge

  • The girlfriend wants to wait for him until death, but he wants to get married now

  • Emotional pain 8–9/10

  • Aim (verbatim): Clarity

Session 1

  • Engram1: Client saw himself standing on a marble floor (house, 11–12 PM), wearing a lower/tee. He noticed a young Indian girl (21, pink suit, not the present girlfriend).
  • Engram2: In a trimmed lawn with a fountain, dressed in a royal off-white kurta, dhoti, leather jooti (26 YO male). In front of a white kothi/mahal. An elephant greeted him with its trunk.
  • Significant Moment: Same girl smiling and talking when regressed to a significant event, same as engram1.
  • Closure: Emerged on his own, no discussion, left confused.

Session 2
Engram3

  • Scene 1: 10 YO cute sardar boy, sitting at the riverbank somewhere in Punjab, wearing undergarments, afraid to enter water alone.
  • Scene 2: At dinner in the stone house, mother (yellow salwar suit, ~35YO) called him “Jeete”; other women present in aangan, moving things, no men. A 70 YO baba was eating roti and sabji seated on the floor at dinner time with him.
  • I-utero attempt: Client stood up, reported darkness and a tense environment.

The client didn’t want further sessions.

Asked him to meditate until our next meeting.

3 Likes
5

Hi Akshay

First, congratulations on the attempt. I feel we can refine the theme a little more deeply.

The presenting issue is clear: he loves someone and wants to get married, but the family is not agreeing. Now, instead of stopping there, we need to understand how this whole scenario makes him feel. Why does he want to marry her? I know this might sound like an crazy question—“because he loves her”—but as therapists, it’s important for us to explore what this love really means to him.

For example, he may say:

  • She understands me well- indicates a deep need for understanding.
  • She cares for me - shows a longing for nurturance.
  • She is the only one who can make me happy - here you get a key insight: perhaps love, care, or happiness is missing in his life.

We don’t jump to conclusions, but we keep asking gently, so that the theme refines itself through his own words. Remember, the key aspect in theme finalization is: what exactly about the situation is bothering the client most deeply? Like in that story where Ekalavya says he sees only the eye of the bird—in our work, it’s only the client and his pain that matters.

Now, regarding spontaneous emergence: since the client is kinesthetic, keep bringing focus to sensations—use words like feel, sense, experience. “Feel” is the key to his door. Also, psycho educate him beforehand that emergence can happen. Even if it does, he can simply keep his eyes closed, stay in the recliner, and share with you.

When that happens, you anchor yourself, take a slow deep breath, and affirm to him that it’s absolutely okay. A bit of guided breathing, gentle coaching, and further relaxation can bring him back into the engram.

If he says, “I don’t feel or see anything,” you can invite him softly: “What if that event had something to communicate to you, what could it be?” But here you must be very observant of his body language and ensure he remains in trance while responding. Hope this helps :slight_smile:

7 Likes
6

I have read the entire content multiple times to fully understand it. I believe I have grasped the essence, and this should be sufficient to proceed with him now.
Thank you so much for your support, @ramyaa. I’m grateful to have a mentor like you. :heart: :innocent:

4 Likes
7

@ramyaa I simply love your explanations to pin point the core issue about things. The way you see scenarios are very insightful and I can learn so much from you as a newcomer. This platform is so powerful and educational :pray:t2::pray:t2: blessed to be surrounded by such Gyani and humble community :kissing_heart::kissing_heart: thank you!

5 Likes
8

I am glad, it helped you. Best wishes!

2 Likes
9

@hc2101 Thank you :hugs: There is no mentor, we have only one teacher and that’s Venu, rest we all are learning together. Spend sometime here and you will get there too :).

5 Likes
10

@ramyaa thank you Ramya :pray:t2: so true! We are together in this journey :hugs: you boarded the train earlier than me :blush: anywhere, anytime I crave for knowledge. Reading all the cases and observing the different responses opens up new door and point of view. I really like all the new experiences and insights I’m getting :pray:t2::pray:t2:

3 Likes