How can a therapist adapt their approach for a kinesthetic client who remains alert and unable to slip into trance despite an extended 100-minute+ induction? Client has been advised to take a break do meditation and come back but again no outcome. Client seems rigid and alert and canât let go of control. I have been dealing with the client for about a month now and itâs getting to a frustrating point. Any suggestions or ideas are greatly appreciated 
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Hey Harmeet, All my Clients have been K apart for one. Yes, things are difficult sometimes but hanging around there with enormous patience and taking baby steps is the key⌠One hammer at the right place, and the shell will breakâŚ
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I know Aayush, it gets difficult, extended induction and deepening did help me last time. Iâm also K so I know itâs a lengthy process for us. I secretly wish for visual clients only 
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Thanks for sharing this case my blessed @Harshita
Could you share the Vitals, HS, ERT and VAK scores please?
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Vak/3/4/8
Eye roll-2/4
Hypnotisabitily- 8/10
Sir, I didnât attend him after 2 sessions, he was way too uncomfortable, adjusting his position and restless. He didnât go into trance at all so sessions didnât progress. His wife said âyou are knocking at the wrong door, he is not gonna open up 100%, he just wants to know how PlRT is done, so itâs more curiosity less faithâ
I tried my best to keep up but then we mutually decided to call it quits.
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Harmeet, I can really feel your sincerity and fatigue in this question.
What youâre experiencing is not failure it is actually very meaningful information about the clientâs nervous system and coping style.
First please take the pressure off yourself and off trance. For some kinesthetic, high control clients, alertness is not resistance it is survival. The body has learned that staying switched on, vigilant and in control is what kept them safe once. Asking them to âlet goâ too early can actually activate the very defenses youâre trying to soften.
Second, the 100+ minute inductions can sometimes work against kinesthetic clients.
Long stillness( meditation ) may feel unsafe to a body that regulates through movement. So, instead of deepening, the nervous system stays on guard. In such cases, the issue is not
âthey canât go into trance,â
but rather
trance is trying to happen through the wrong doorway.
So, may be when you stop chasing depth. n start building permission may work.
Focus on normalizing the control saying,
âYou donât have to let goâŚyour mind can stay alertâŚwe will work with that.â
Paradoxically, when control is allowed, it softens.
You may try to shift from regression to resourcing first. A month of work without trance may actually mean the system is asking for safety and not memory. Build capacity by grounding, containment, ego strengtheningâŚetc
Regression will follow naturally once the body trusts you.
you may name the control lovingly, not as resistance but as intelligenceâŚlike
âThis part of you has done an incredible job keeping you functional.â
When a client feels seen rather than pushed, something relaxes.
And finally about you 
If youâre feeling frustrated, pause and honor that too. It doesnât mean youâre doing something wrong. It means you care. Sometimes the work here is not
âgetting them into trance,â but learning how this client needs to feel safe enough to even approach it.
So, my take is that you are not stuck, you are standing at the doorway of a deeper understandingâŚof this client and of yourself as a therapist.
Sending you patience, clarity, and trust in your skill 
Youâre doing so much better than you think.
Waiting for Venu sirâs responseâŚhe knows best to handle such clientsâ:folded_hands:
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Phenomenal Supu 
so impressed with what youâve suggested.
Thanks for the details my blessed @hc2101
Vital looks okay,
Iâll need some time to ponder 
and come back on this
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Hi Harmeet,
I have a suggestion for you and you can give it a try.
There are 2 ways we learn- people who connect with their body and then connect to emotions, while other set of people connect with their emotions first and then connect to body.
Ask your client, for eg, when he was a child if his dad shouts at him, his stomach churns and then he will get afraid or he will fear first which then turns to stomach churning. I guess mostly, your client is the first type, in which his emotions are not connected with his body.
If that is the case, give the client more physical tasks. Instead of you speaking and him listening all the time (which creates a running away/ boredom feeling for these type of clients)- allow him to do some tasks.
Ask him to open and close his eyes (eye fascination) 5 times.
Then ask him to raise his hands and tell him your hands are tied to balloon and it is raising slowly. (Initially he wouldnât raise, but then repeat it as much as you can, because his arm gets tired, he will lift his hand as an escape mechanism)
Use words like, as you want to go to calm state, as you wish to relax, as you wish to imagineâŚusing the words as if they are in control, instead you are in controlâŚ
Still he doesnât relax,
Final method- ask him to straighten one of his arm and feel the pulse using finger from the other arm. Eyes focused on the finger to feel the pulse, all his energy focused to feel the pulse. Stay close to him at a comfortable distance but with a slight hoveringâŚ.once he feels snap your fingers and start to focus on following his breath for a whileâŚ.This should definitely make him to go to trance.
If not, please let me knowâŚI will be searching.
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Wow Devi 
Iâm Beyond amazed. You cracked the code. I am so grateful that you took the time to read my question-looked for answers/researched 
it shows what a remarkable therapist and person you are I bow in gratitude will definitely give it a try next time. I appreciate the support more than words can express
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Thank you Supritee, you explained it so Very well. Yes I can relate to every single word, itâs the resistance and more we try to soften, it becomes harder and on guard. I often feel the same when I try to let go, itâs not a robotic switch which can be turned on/off, âtryingâ puts it in defensive mode and âletting goâ doesnât happen. It has to flow naturally.. And as a new therapist we try to apply every single trick. It was a challenge for my confidence and patience too. But I take it as learning. You will meet different clients so every experience teaches you something. And you learn to do better going forward. May be this was meant to be for my personal experience. Thanks again for taking the time out to share your knowledge and expertise I always look forward to your inputs , it helps me a lot. I genuinely appreciate your support lots of Love
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Venu Sir, thank you as always for all the support and help
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Dear Harmeet
Youâve put it so honestly that letting go is never a switch. The moment we try the system tightens, protects, resists. And yes, when we allow it to flow, it happens in its own time, in its own way.
Believe me every therapist goes through a phase of confidence and patience, even if they donât say it out loud. Trying every tool, every technique, hoping something clicks⌠and then slowly realizing that presence matters more than perfection. This realization itself is growth.
And you are right, each client teaches us something new. Sometimes the learning is professional, sometimes deeply personal. And often, the toughest sessions are meant more for us than we realize in that moment.
Iâm really glad our exchanges help you n this means a lot to me too. Youâre doing fine, Harmeet. Trust your process, trust your intent. The rest keeps unfolding.
Lots of love back to you
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