Why we should pace instead of asking "Okay, what else?"

Having gone through several transcripts of sessions conducted by my students I thought of sharing this quintessential point.

When we start practicing PLRT and our client has elicited a far memory and revealed something on that front. Our next instinct will be to get more details and in this desperation we might end up asking, “what else!”

But let’s remember the golden rule for a therapist is, “Utilize everything.” So applying that we can get some momentum by pacing.

Let me demonstrate it with an example

T: Go back in time to where your fear of drowning comes from…
[In a few moments client is pensive]
C: I feel restless in my heart…
can feel being water and…
eh…
I am drowning!
[gasping for breath]
[long silence]
T: What else?

I am sure that if you were the client you’d feel awkward at this question as it doesn’t reflect empathy.

But instead “What else?” can be replaced with pacing, which is, narrating to the client a summary of what they’ve said so far for the question you asked and leading into asking "what more comes into your awareness…

Because

Empathy is perceived understanding
And Understanding Conveys Trust and Trust Conveys compliance

In the above scenario, as an emphatic therapist we can wait for a few moments to get the clients response and can use IMR to confirm if they are comfortable to answer a question and then say,

“I understand you are feeling anxious”
“Having gone back in time to explore where your fear of water comes from, you have a sense of drowning… gasping for breath”

We can pace by paraphrasing followed by leading them to getting more details with, “… is there day light?” or “What kind of a body could you be in…” and so on…

I would like to know what you would ask and elicit more material in such a scenario. Remember there are no right or wrong answers.

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Wow…venu…that was a valuable guidance u can give to your disciple … !

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Dear venu
Thanks for this reminder as sharing your precious wisdom.

In this situation one can consider
“ I understand that you are anxious and feel gasping as you experience drowning. Remember you are visiting a memory and if pain become too much you can always choose to just float over the scene and witness the scene from above … ( wait for sometime and carefully watching for abreaction.) … how are you feeling now …?”
Another possible suggestion could be …
“ knowing fully that you are safe and protected and that though it feels so real and painful but you are only reliving a memory , move ahead in time and tell me what happens next …”
Again there can’t be any set questions or suggestion ; every situation is unique and every client is unique.

Regards ,
Ram

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Excellent guidance Venu. I feel we need to show similar empathy in our day to day conversations also. At times, we tend to forget this and start asking uncomfortable questions, particularly to our loved ones.

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Thank you for sharing this insight Venu. At the moment, I have ‘no insight’. But after your question I have taken a print out of the few cases I have done so far and I am going over them again. I am hoping this will help me identify and became more aware of any insensitivity and lack of empathy I may have displayed. Turns out there are quite a few instances.

As to ‘instead of what else?’ I am still learning.

Thank you Venu for the red alert.

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Many thanks Venu for sharing this useful information. Truely blessed to have a teacher like you🙏

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My joy Jyoti,
Your due diligence will make you an exceptionally great teacher :slight_smile:

Happy morning from little buddy

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Thanks a lot dear daddy for the valuable suggestion.
I was using this ‘ What else’ often but now I understood how paraphrasing is good instead of ‘ what else ‘.

I will remember this important learning from now. Thank you so much :pray:t2::heart:

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@lotusheart2016 Very well phrased with the solution to the problem. All beings here are for the greater good of the universe.

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Reading this makes me feel more empathetic and helps me relate to the client about what they might be feeling while experiencing something in a trance. Master Venu is at the top of the sky, from where he showers his blessings and guides us to be great humans again. I respect you more and more for this amazing opportunity and also for this great platform, @venu. :heart_eyes:

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This happened with me during my very first session , Dr Venu himself came and showed how to deal with it…it happens very often when therapist falls short of words but there is always a way out as @lotusheart2016 mentioned beautifully. Thanks a lot🙏 this is really helpful.

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Such a profound thought.Hope good sense prevails when i am in a session to implement all the knowledge you share Dr Venu

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Mark my words Dr. @sarandha with the kind of sincerity you have, you will be blessed by the Masters to surpass me, and that will be my joy.
-V

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@venu I did so many blunders in my cases. I’m still learning and hoping to correct myself and do better going forward. I look back and regret, but after reading and educating myself a bit I allow myself to suggest- that therapist should mirror the client’s words and experience without adding interpretation, like acknowledging the images, emotions, or body sensations exactly as described and then softly leave space for the memory to continue. Repeat what they are describing like ‘ I know it’s dark’ or ‘ I know you are scared’ followed by ‘you can stay with this feeling’ or ‘just allow it to unfold’ shows attunement rather than direction. Spoken slowly and followed by a pause, this kind of paraphrasing reassures the nervous system that nothing needs to be fixed or explained, allowing the subconscious to feel safe enough to naturally deepen the memory and reveal what is ready to emerge. That’s what I do next time :folded_hands:t2::folded_hands:t2: so much to learn and practice!

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@venu Thank you Dr Venu for your kind words.Blessed to have you as my mentor

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The syntax is the name of the game. I guess until we have healed ourselves and as Mr Khare rightly says, practice ‘empathy’ in our day to day affairs; we are bound to falter. The language/gramar, from our day to day lives, that we use while conducting the sessions could corrupt our suggestions ….and consequential results.

For example, to my mind there is no difference between ‘….tell me what happens next …” and ‘What else’ except the length of the sentence. Unless ofcourse my idea of pacing is warped.

NO OFFENCE INTENDED

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None taken my beloved Atul
All is in love :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
The semantics of calibrated suggestion as per NLP is proven to reach the deeper levels of mind and elicit the much needed responses from there along with keeping the life line of rapport intact.
Hence the endeavour

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yes my blessed @hc2101 you are spot on,
as long as the client is assured that we are there with them throughout this experience they dare what they dreaded earlier.
Which is why PLRT stands out in adoption by Psychologists when compared to it’s predecessor “Auditing” propounded by Dr. Ron Hubbards
Learning is a continuous process, enjoy…

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blessed to have some one so sincere to learn and reach out in wiping a tear and brining a smile my blessed Dr. @sarandha

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